Well, let me begin like this, this is a major issue, especially now
that I have just been presented with a gift of a jet. That makes it a
major issue. Let me say here that every pastor must be conscious of the
people he pastors. It is very important. I can tell you that as a pastor
for 40 years now, if you talk to people that are genuinely my members,
they will tell you the kind of pastor that am I.
If you watched me today, I was talking about a young man who has been
trying to go to a university for three years now. I didn’t know him
from Adam. One day, after a service here, one of my pastors brought him
to me. As soon as he saw me, he held my legs and began to cry! He showed
me all the papers, pleading that he had tried to gain admission to any
university here, it never worked.
So he finally got admission to study in Cyprus. I paid his school
fees, helped him with ticket and everything he needed, he’s gone. He has
since resumed school and is there in Cyprus now. How many people will
know that? In the last s even to eight years now, I have paid school
fees of over 100 people in different universities, polytechnics and
colleges of education.
Some of them have graduated and have come here to share their
testimonies, excitements and even their parents have come here to thank
us. I don’t know them from anywhere. Every December 26, I do a very big
thing here. We call it poverty alleviation.
This year, December 26, we will equally do it. Last December 26, I
gave out about six brand new cars to people; your denomination means
nothing.
Whether you are a Muslim or a native doctor means nothing here.
What qualifies you is if you are a human being. I gave out 25
tricycles, about 100 sewing machines, and grinding machines.
Some of these people come here to give testimonies; some are now
married and have children. There was this young boy, a Moslem from
Auchi. This young man, nothing good was coming out of his life, he was
rejected, nobody wanted him and one of our pastors took him into a
teaching centre and he was sleeping in the teaching centre. They were
helping him. This boy had driver’s licence, I don’t know how he got
it. He had no job and couldn’t do anything.
Last two years, when we were doing the poverty alleviation, he
applied. And they brought out a name which happened to be this boy’s
and he won a brand new car. Today, that boy has rented his own house; in
fact, his parents who are Muslims came to church on a Sunday and
worshipped with me and danced all over the place and, after the service,
they came to me and thanked me, saying ‘oh, this boy that you don’t
even know from anywhere, you dashed him a car.’
They were very happy. Besides that, many lives have been transformed
here. We have changed many lives. We have an orphanage here. As we are
talking, an American couple has gotten in touch with me. They want to
adopt a child from our orphanage. We have a clinic here that hopefully
will develop into a full blown hospital. People go there and pay little
something for treatment, but generally on Sundays people are treated
free.
These are some of the things we do. Most people don’t know this and I
don’t think I am the only pastor doing this. So a lot of people who are
saying this against pastors are just being mischievous. They may have
their reasons, some of them are bitter about something and they are not
telling the full story about what is making them bitter.
But like I said, a good pastor must be concerned about his people. We
have buses that we use in carrying people. If I tell you some of the
things that we used to do, it will shock you. There is a woman in my
church, when she came to this church, she had probably two blouses and a
wrapper, no slippers, not even bathroom slippers.
She had never entered a classroom before. I didn’t even know her. She
is from one of these oil bearing communities. There was a time an oil
company in their community wanted to do business with them and she was
interested but had no money. She came to us for assistance. I don’t
think, at that time, she had ever seen N10,000 in her life.
So she went to our micro-finance bank, Mama (my wife) runs it without
salary, she and all our directors don’t earn one naira. She went to the
bank and said she wanted to borrow money. My wife asked her; `how much
do you have in your account’, and she said, I don’t even have an
account’.
My wife looked at her, and she called me about it and I said, `look,
leave me out of it’. We didn’t even have that kind of money at that
time. She asked the woman again, `how much do you have now and the woman
said N2,000′. She now advised her to use that money to open an account
and she did. Mama now went round to source for the amount.
The short story here is that she got the money, did her business and
in less than six months, she paid back the money she collected. As we
speak now, she is one of the richest women in Warri. She bought me an
incredible car that cost millions of naira some years ago.
Coming to the issue of jet, I had no single idea of how it came
about. It is true that people like us have gotten to a point where we
need to have means of movement that will help us. You may have heard me
speak about my trip to Indonesia, to Jakarta.
In fact, it wasn’t even Jakarta I was going to, but I had to stay
inside an airport in Jakarta for five hours to wait for my flight, to
get to the very city I was going. I was only going to preach for two
hours there. I flew from Lagos to Dubai and I spent over three hours,
changed flight to fly to Jakarta and then stayed five hours at the
airport just to catch a flight to where I was going to, where I was to
preach for just two hours.
And after everything, I got a flight from that place again to
Jakarta, stayed at the airport again for another five hours, then flew
into Dubai, stayed again at the airport for another three hours before I
flew into Lagos. It took me four days to make a journey to preach for
two hours. I’m a human being and I am not getting younger every day.
And locally, it is worse, for instance, the acting General Secretary
of CAN lost his father in a place outside Uyo, Akwa Ibom State and I had
to be there. I preached in a place in Lagos on a Friday and needed to
be back to Warri on a Saturday, but at the end of the day, the plane
that would have taken me was no where.
I had to charter a plane for N3.5 million to take me to Uyo, waited
for me to finish and then take me back to Warri. Two weeks ago, a young
pastor in Port Harcourt built a new church and had been on me all this
while to come and dedicate the church and suddenly from no where, there
was this flood that cut off the road to Port Harcourt.
There is no road now to Port Harcourt. If you want to go by road now,
it takes you up to 12 hours to get to Port Harcourt and I had to preach
in Port Harcourt, I had to preach in Lagos, I had to preach in Abuja
and other places. Finally, I was able to find my way to Port Harcourt,
it was on a Saturday.
I had to get to Warri that Saturday so as to be able to preach the
next day, Sunday. Do you know what I had to finally do? I chartered a
helicopter that cost me N2 million to drop me in Warri. When they
dropped me here, ah, I can’t tell you how I felt that I had to part with
that sum. But I had promised the young man and the church and if I had
said no, will it be right? I can go on and on and on.
So, sometimes, my schedule is so complicated. Now, with this plane,
it changes everything about my movements. Now, I can move, I can even go
and come back home. It is a bit more convenient for me and I suspect
that this is one of the reasons a lot of these other preachers have
planes.
Does your congregation understand all these engagements?
They do. They feel the pain I go through and they feel painful for
not seeing me most of the time. They don’t like it, they are troubled. I
know some people buy planes, I can’t buy plane. I can’t afford it. I
don’t have that kind of money, I still don’t know the people that bought
this plane, but I know that there is a committee.
I hope you will get to meet with some of the people in that
committee, I don’t know them. My wife is more involved with them. She
(my wife) never talked to me, (about it) and she was acting strange.
Well, I don’t want to get involved in this. This is my story about the
plane. And I’m not ashamed to own a plane, I think it is a necessity and
not a luxury for some of us deeply involved in the work of God to own
planes.
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